Traumatic Death and Suicide

Souls who incarnate into physical state come with very little plan of action. This means, your destiny has not already been mapped out for you, for you simply to follow like a puppet or pawn. Nor is your fate set in stone to balance some karmic debt or spiritual lesson. Lessons of life are not a prerequisite for some ascension process.

Are such things as car accidents an orchestrated divine plot for one or more souls to depart? With miniscule exception the answer must be no. Many other species, including some species on Earth have the ability to leave their physical state at will, whenever they are done using it. There is no need for traumatic or violent transitions. It is so only for humans because they are careless, irrational and spiritually disconnected.

There are people who fail to realize that the spirit world has little influence on the day to day manifestations within the physical world. This is to say, the spirit world tend to leave the physical ‘stuff’ to the physical beings within it, and interfere very little. It is actually very difficult for beings in the spirit world to work with energy at the vibration of physical state, simply because it takes a tremendous amount of energy focus and control to manipulate physical circumstance. This is why many choose to simply incarnate, as it is easier, in some respects.

Within the physical state there exists imperfections. Accidents are going to happen due to these imperfections. If you hold a ball and drop it, it is going to fall. This is not some divine will of God intervening in the destiny of the ball, it is simply the mechanics of physical state. If a human being falls asleep at the wheel and kills another driver, this is not divine will, it is human fallibility. So too if they react in such a way as to drive off a cliff, crash into another car or simply lose control of the vehicle. Sometimes it is easier and more palatable of heart to point the finger to some unseen force or twisted fantasy of fate. Some so-called spiritual individuals will claim ‘there are no such things as accidents’. Yet this airy fairy claim lacks the wisdom of a greater understanding that the physical state of life is not so perfect, orchestrated and organised as you make it out to be. It is a state of experimentation and continuous spontaneous creativity. This is why humans suffer so, not for some divine lesson, but to reveal anything and everything is permitted to be created. Imperfections create circumstances, both as a result from human action and of environmental influences. Just as such things as diseases, learning disabilities and genetic mutations are all results of physical state events, which have nothing whatsoever to do with any spiritual application.

I am fully aware, within my own role, within the awareness that I have, that an increase of spiritualist thinkers assume in blind faith that the spirit world has this great overpowering influence over every tiny little event in physical state. I am sorry to inform you, this is not the case, as you will find out for yourself. This is why it is of the utmost importance for humanity to take responsibility for their own lives, their own planet and their own future.

Now if one is also to bring into the equation the emotional repercussions of a soul, who is claimed to transition via some pre-arranged violent car crash, you have to realize that in most instances such an event causes devastating effects, both for those left in physical state, as well as the soul who has passed on so quickly that they did not have time to say goodbye. Often times these souls have to be met by their guides and told exactly what has happened to them for it has not dawned on them that they have actually died. Some have even been known to ignore the presence of their guides and push them out of their energy space altogether, and blatantly anchor themselves to their physical attachments. Now, it is with anyone with common sense that it is to be understood that no soul would choose this upon themselves, or upon those who they leave behind. I hope this brings into perspective that such violent or unjust passings are not something which souls choose by free will, but something which takes place through the free will of others, or actions of others, or themselves, and/or the environmental circumstances of where they currently are.

I have similarly often overheard the words ‘It was their time’. In some respects this is appropriate as it aids in the healing process of those effected. However, time holds little value for intelligence within spirit state and they do not attach focus upon dates and times like human beings do. It is not the case, you see, that when some soul has completed his Earthly mission or assignment that he, or she, then suddenly orchestrates a convenient violent accident. Which actually results in the suffering of other beings. You must think logically on this. It is similarly also a false foregone conclusion than every human soul incarnates to fulfil some great spiritual mission. At which point upon its completion they are then to immediately return back to the spirit world to plan for another. As I have stated, physical state experiences are not all mapped out in advance. Some souls simply choose to have a physical state experience because they have met other spirits in the other realms who have, and so they then themselves have been drawn to exploring a creative endeavour in this way.

Understanding, and coming to terms with why your beloved friends and family pass in such circumstances, and with such unjust timing, is a matter of accepting the fallibilities of human action, inaction or inter-weaving influences which affect you in physical state. Cause and effect. It is about finding peace within yourself upon the foundation of respect for the laws that govern your universe.

If your passing involves some degree of trauma, such as perhaps a gunshot wound to the chest, if your conscious mind is aware that you are dying, then confidently you are likely to figure out you have just died when you find yourself floating above your body. If on the other hand, you are already unconscious, perhaps within your dream state or perhaps within a coma after suffering a physically traumatic experience, your passing is likely going to take place in a more subtle fashion. If your conscious awareness is not focused on your physicality, and your physical environment at the time of your passing, it is much more likely you will not realise you have left your physical body and have now passed. Under such circumstances you may likely presume yourself to be within a dream or other state of disorientation where you suddenly begin to see manifestations of things you are thinking about, typically to do with your human memory. Again, there is a significant link between your human memory (cellular memory) and the consciousness journey after your passing.

The degree of trauma carried over by the individual soul after suicide really differs significantly between people of different backgrounds, spirituality and value structure. This is to say, if you are for the most part in sound mind and good spiritual self-awareness you are going to handle the event much more fluidly than someone who is emotionally distraught and lost within themselves. This emotional or mental instability will seek an outlet after crossing to the spirit world, for your thoughts are real living creative substances which create solidified reality. Even after undergoing spiritual aid to overcome these inner turmoils the soul still has to address their feelings in regard to regret. Now they may not regret ending their own life, and may feel pretty relieved after their passing, but during their live review may come to discover they have caused a whole chain of negative effects on the physical world which they will not be able to simply ignore. They will then feel an urgent impulse to resolve these impacts on others lives by hanging around the Earth plane attempting to coordinate their efforts in fixing the pain of others. They have then not been able to have a swift release into paradise, for the energy of their actions has caused guilt to drive their vibrational state. Guilt is a very heavy dense vibration to hold onto and this is the energy which causes many of the problems for passing souls. Their loving embrace in the planes of love and light, being totally engulfed in it has given them the clear transparent wisdom to understand their inadvertent effects on others lives. Instead of dealing with their own physical life issues they now inherit those of others whom they have been responsible for.

Regardless of this painted picture, know that all who cross over, regardless if they take their own life, will be greeted and granted the greatest love and compassion by a great diversity of beings. There is no punishment but that which you cause yourself to endure by your own judgment. Your thoughts about yourself, your actions, become the knife with which you cut into your own heart and bleed your own soul to bare for persecution.

Punishment in the afterlife is a man-made concept; as such may exist as a manifested concept by one projecting their own punishment upon themselves. The only punishment which exists in the afterlife is self-imposed by disillusionment.

I can understand why you would not immediately grasp the intricacies involved with this type of soul passage, and thusly pose these questions in an attempt to analyse opposing points of view. It could be said, to fully comprehend my initial point of view and stance, one would greatly benefit from being in the proximity and presence of those who have actually passed over in this way. Those too who have themselves attempted to end their own lives, but perhaps returned or had failed in their attempt, would have a better personal experience and understanding where I am coming from.

Many of those who choose to cut their lives short through self-harm do so within a place of fear. This fear can often be overcome with the right guidance and support before any suicide takes place. I shall always be an absolute advocate of guidance and support as a means of prevention even in the darkest of times.

There are those who see the body as merely a barrier, they would say that they go not in fear but through an attraction of gravitating towards something else – which the body is not, and cannot provide for them. Yet this is not understanding what the body is capable of. It is not understanding what the mind is capable of, and similarly also what the spirit is capable of. In this outlook they have neglected their own wisdom in understanding the essence of the spirit already exists within them, and that they need not go anywhere else to find it. It is said: it is human nature to fear what they do not understand. It is through not understanding that those who commit suicide think and act in the way they do. For if they truly understood what was possible from where they are presently they would not have arrived within the thought of self-harm to begin with.

I have complete compassion and unreserved love for those who do take their own life for whatever reason. It is not my intent to impose notions of right and wrong, for all beings are captains of their own morality and their perception of value.

Many of those who are unfortunate to have not received the right guidance and support and who take their own lives often get fixated with their state of unfinished affairs. This is to say, they feel, once having passed over, that they have not accomplished or gained from their physical life what they had hoped and expected. They feel matters often left unsettled and unresolved, where a sense of something else or something more could have been achieved or gained, or that they could have approached the problem differently. They also have to witness those they have left behind who dwell in sorrow and who often blame themselves for not doing enough to prevent the loss of life. This lowers their own sense of self-value and achievement in their own lives. Furthermore, because of their personal connection to those of the physical plane, they then feel obliged to support those still alive through some feeling of responsibility. This often causes frustration and sadness for them because they then wish they were right there physically with such people to comfort them, instead of being invisible and unable to be seen, heard or felt. These situations occur all of the time and are observed by many spirit guides who try their very best to comfort those who end their own lives, and also those who are left to burden the blame. On this matter, I continue to infer my advice, for these are events which have occurred, and do occur, and which have and are being observed.

Each and every individual soul goes to the same ‘place’. There is not one place for one person and another for another. What experience you have of yourself in that place will depend on the nature through which you arrive there, and what you take with you. For it is, what you take with you is what you will first and foremost be observant to, and what you take with you is what begins to reveal itself to and upon you one hundred fold. If there are closed doors within your mind and heart, and if there are intolerances towards aspects of life and the very value of it then these will also be carried with you into the afterlife.

For suicides it is not a question of what they do or not do deserve. Nor is it a question of forgiveness. All beings are of the Prime Creator and receive the same unconditional love and guidance regardless of who or what they are, or what they have done in physical state. Their spirit remains pure and pervading at all times. The question is, how much of that unconditional love and guidance are they open and choosing to receive at any given time within their journey.

I can only relate experiences I have been aware of concerning those who have passed on and later regretted their decision feeling that they could have done more within their physical journey. I can only relate to those who once addressing their Akashic book felt they had left their affairs in a state of incompletion. I can only relate to those who try their very best to comfort those who they left behind upon the Earth who continue, in their own way, to suffer. Watching loved ones continue to suffer in their everyday lives, yet no longer able to hold their hand, whisper words of love and comfort, or make them laugh emphasises the full consequences of their own actions. In willfully choosing to take yourself away from those you love most in physical life creates a whole new dimension of what suffering can become. For you may have seemingly escaped your own woes of human affairs, but have you really?

It is for you to understand then that it is not a question of punishment in the spirit world by some fictional judgmental authority, but of understanding the avenues of consequence which you become aware of only AFTER you have made the decision to take your own life.

Any physical being has a right to end their own life. The question is, in this mental and emotional state of wanting to take your own life are you in a place of wisdom and awareness to fully understand its ultimate consequences. I am informing you from observation that the majority are not. This is not to say they cannot progress into realms of love and light, of forgiveness and peaks of prosperity, for in fact they do – they all do eventually. How each individual soul arrives at that peaceful bliss with no further attachment to physical life affairs is a very individual experience which is not the same for anyone.

Human beings do not take their own lives in faith, they take them in the absence of it. Faith in what they currently have.

Nobody has to suffer. Human beings suffer because they allow themselves to through their choices. Perhaps it is the very choices human beings make for themselves which are cruel. All beings must accept responsibility for their own experience of themselves, at all times, in all places. If you do not accept responsibility for what you experience then you do not accept your own ability to change that experience.

Whether you have a ‘harder time’ than another depends upon how you choose to feel and think about yourself before, during and after the choices you make, in this world and upon the next. It is my observation that many beings feel differently about a great many things once they have arrived in the spirit world. My advice then is to contemplate all potentials open to you at all times, within all places, before making any hasty decisions.

But do not be anxious or afraid of such possibilities to do with the manner of your passing, for there are those in spirit who have been specifically trained to free you from any disorientation. For example, there once existed a young women of the physical Earth who during her life was completely blind and deaf from birth. Now, when it came to be that she had passed, she became highly disorientated because she did not actually understand what it meant to die. She did not understand anything metaphysical or spiritual, or any concept of the ether world. So then she had passed, not even realising that she had, and now found herself in quite a different environment altogether. Due to her human memory she still retained her blindness and her absence of hearing when she passed, but she could feel and intuitively sense much more than what she was used to, and this frightened her. At this point in time, a group of facilitators came to her, those astute in the arts of rehabilitation of the Self. These facilitators actually enabled her to see and hear for the first time by implanting within her consciousness, her cellular memory within her consciousness persona, other peoples sensory memories, mental algorithms and replicated bioelectrical impulses. Because she did not understand that she had passed, she was then shown her life as it had been lived, and her now empty physical form upon the Earth. So to say, her disorientation was resolved by efficient interactions from loving beings who leapt at the opportunity to be in service.

About Bob OHearn

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3 Responses to Traumatic Death and Suicide

  1. Bob OHearn says:

    Additional from Sparrow:

    In the question of taking ones own physical life, I shall always speak from the vantage point of the soul and as a spokesperson for those who have chosen this course of action in the past. I have no personal predisposition since I believe all beings are free to choose how they meet life’s challenges. However, the best answer would always come from those who have experienced this course of direction for they would be able to impart valuable insight. I have to say, from my associations with those who have taken their lives this way each soul deals with the situation differently. Overall as a majority, I have identified that most souls are regretful in passing this way during their life review. This is not because they chose an easy way out of their most difficult challenges but because of the after effects of their actions which in turn impact the lives of those they left behind in a negative way. In studying the Akashic records they come to realise just how much influence their small roles had on the life path and choices of others around them. They also, through their access to other information, and through observing others still upon the Earth, they are burdened to watch friends and family struggle and suffer within their own challenges and no longer able to intervene. They were no longer able to hold that hand in comfort; say a few comforting words; provide moral support or lend their own strength of character. It is also not uncommon for those same beings to then have to watch their friends and loved ones take their own lives and not be able to physically be there to provide comfort or guidance. So in a sense, in taking ones own physical life, you are giving up a great privilege and opportunity to be of service to others lives in such a direct way that so many billions of others in spirit do not have the opportunity to do. If a human being wishes to cast this rare opportunity to accomplish what billions of spirit observers are unable to do, then that is a choice they must be prepared to live with in the ether world thereafter. This is not a moral question or judgment, but a consideration of a broader picture which is to be considered. It is much more difficult to be of service to those of physical state from the ether world.

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  2. mac says:

    This section explains the situation concerning suicide in the way I have long understood it. It’s sad that so many fail to understand the simple logic of the situation. Great job compiling Sparrow’s guidance!

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  3. Bob OHearn says:

    Questioner quotes Sparrow, from an old post on suicide: “. . . any act of desperation through physical suicide, as means to escape your life challenges, will ultimately lead to deep soul trauma and a deep rooted sense of regret. One kind of suffering will be replaced with a different kind. For this reason it is strongly recommended you seek a spiritual or life counsellor for advice.”

    Q: I just need to know do you come to this conclusion on those who carry out self deliverance [suicide]?

    A: I am delighted to observe your interest in these dusty dialogues. Specifically and outspokenly, pertaining to desperate situations and what you perceive as self deliverance.

    As per your query, we will address the formation of my conclusions first, and follow with your interpretations and response to them.

    My assertions, as you would like to call them, are based upon observations and personal experiences of the Asceleottyi, which include myself. Such assertions form from my own personal experience interacting with the immediately deceased. This also includes those shared by others in the form of conversations, halls of records and real-time observations of others lives. Having a broad composition of experience in the spirit world assisting souls come to certain understandings within their past lives, I am fortunately blessed with an abundance of comprehension within such field. That is to say, I have had enough interactions with the traumatically deceased to be able to form common observations from them. So too for the Asceleottyi. I would also illuminate the fact that Sparrow too has had a personal experience of his own suicide, in what is now somewhat another life. Would this adequately meet your needs for qualifying criteria for my assertions?

    Let us now address the interpretations you have of these dialogues you have discovered from a previous exchange:

    The dialogue you have highlighted refers to situations where a human being commits an act of self-harm through impulsive desperation. This is to say, the human being is out of touch with their core central values, their heart wisdom and their ability to identify other routes of relief to their life challenges. Their capacity for reason and decision become commandeered by emotional states and impulsive behaviours. An example of this would be someone who shouts at their spouse and does or says something out of anger. This is later regretted by the same individual and understood to be an impulsive action created by an emotional state. Once the individual becomes more stable they often times wish they could reverse their words and actions, but find it is too late. This is also true for a soul who commits suicide out of desperation.

    There is no celestial authority with a big stick to punish you for not aligning to some institutional morality or ideology of behaviour. The spirit world does not function this way. Any suffering you experience in your afterlife is a direct result of suffering you carry with you into the afterlife. Removing the physical body from your state of being does not remove the mental and emotional state from your state of consciousness. If you have taken your life to escape your emotions and your beliefs about yourself, you will only discover these persist and continue to exist even without a physical body.

    Removing the physical body from your state of being certainly does remove physical pain and escape terminal illness. Individual tolerability, environmental suitability, and capacity for happiness should not be disregarded as result of uncompromising collective decree.

    The unseen world wish to relay that there is no stigma attached to the way in which a human being returns to the spirit world. They are always happy for a soul to be received back into the light and truth of love.

    Every being is entitled to experience a quality of life for it to identify with a sense of purpose and associate with their own value. Yet I tell you, even those with chronic pain and terminal illness can identify with a sense of purpose and recognise value where others see none. Even those sentenced to certain death do not have to forsake a hope for a blind compliance to an untimely passing. One only has to look at Dolph Lundgren for an example of this truth. Just because someone convinces you that you are dying, does not make it true until you decide it is. There are always other choices and other opportunities to be found, regardless of how bleak the circumstances. This is something I again confirm through experience.

    Q: Nobody ever asks to be born

    A: That assertion is factually incorrect and does not demonstrate an understanding of how physical matter is animated. You cannot be physically born without having previously chosen to connect your spirit to biological cellular material. That is why your etheric cord is attached to your solar plexus; it is only possible through free-will decision to create a symbiotic connection with physical cellular state. This occurs prior to the forming of the biological foetus, or fetus, as said in the United States. Anyone utilising a physical body is doing so because they have asked to be born into physical state experience. You would not have connected your etheric cord if you had not chosen a physical life, nor would the foetus be able to grow without it.

    Suffering is a foreknown theme of physical biological life and you knew this before choosing to be born. What was not known in advance was how your biological and cellular development would respond to progressive environmental conditions, or how your genetic code would react to the symbiotic connection of the etheric and spiritual component.

    Your compassion and empathy for those in suffering is commendable and justified in your remarks. Fortunately, human beings are not destined to always struggle with chronic pain or terminal illnesses. Artificial intelligence is going to assist human beings in addressing these challenges.

    I must again emphasise that how a human being dies is not as important as how they choose to live. That is my main message.

    Q: But they [suicides] are already (severely) in deep mental and emotional pain and trauma. My understanding is there are people on the Other Side lovingly aiding them so NOT to fall into a deeper soul trauma.

    A: For some, this is true. However, this should not become an assumption that everyone who has taken their physical live is bathing blissfully in love and light; assuming them to be showered with the comforts and compassionate words of familiar faces and angelic figures. As loving and compassionate as the spirit world is, free will also exists, as is the human propensity for prolonging their own suffering. No other species do it quite like human beings do.

    There are many who still walk the Earth without physical form who continue to isolate their own awareness upon the way in which they had passed. In doing so they alienate themselves and their awareness of the help that is available to them to overcome their trauma. It is then left to human beings on the physical world to sometimes intervene, due to their proximity to their energetic vibration. This is why you get hauntings of human dwellings.

    The human experience of suffering in physical state is not the same as suffering experienced outside of the body. When I refer to suffering which is replaced by a different kind of suffering, it is because you no longer have physical devices and applications through which to distract, reprieve or conceal your suffering. There is no longer an ability to hide from your thoughts and feelings. What you think and feel become manifest without the filters and functionality human beings are so accustomed to. This experience changes the very definition of suffering.

    Fortunately, the spirit world are always at hand to intercede with love, but only at the receptivity of those who are willing to receive it.

    ~Sparrow, 5/21/23

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